177.Notes - soul talk

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177. 1 August 2019

       Mid-afternoon after lunch at Smashburger and a stop at Walmart for a new birdfeeder. You are at Kroger's off north State Street in Westerville. We are editing yesterday's Ms Havisham's preface to consciousness as this is in the August folder. 

         As we go through this slightly edited Preface, I will add my immediate comment with asterisk, underline and brackets. mh

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       Long ago human beings incorporated words to better describe their feelings on personally observed feelings and events, some circumstances were in a spiritual twist. Out of a variety of seemingly, at first, supernatural events there arose reasoning for explanation, i.e. stories. 

       Gods and Goddesses in control with ghosts and goblins closer to the earthlings themselves. What could be closer than the human heartanmind in an imaginary twist along with the spiritual? Witnessing a seemingly supernatural (out of the ordinary) event comes first. As no earthling arrives and survives in a vacuum, culture, conjecture and belief were in a general reply to the relatively unseen, although spiritually felt, 

       Why? Because the sense of the spiritual is embedded within the human psyche. It is embedded in the human emotional heart and intellectual mind because of the soul; one of which I, Ms Havisham, am (within linguistic personification of course). 

    * [The soul is the lightning rod that jolts the spiritual heartanmind to show something rather unusual is about within. - mh]

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       People feel their own souls from time to time, one usual observation witnessed is that the speaker, generally with an unannounced tear in the eye, slightly bows her or his head in anguish or delight and implies or says something such: "I have no words." Or, begins or ends with something to the effect: "from deep in my soul. 

       This is not science, this is human. When people feel they are stringently aware of their own soul’s consciousness flounders in the mystery of how this can be, that they cannot speak without hesitation or not at all in such a highly intimate moment of self-reckoning. 

       The soul bursts forth within a sacred solitude of understanding an immediate truth. The material world and the spiritual are forever married while in a living quantum-like thinking consciousness of being and not-being at the same time. This is not a miracle, it is an existence of an immortal self and other existing immortal selves in the physical world.

       * [A soul is spiritual being not a scientific quality or quanta. People who deny this are being unrealistic as to what spiritual human qualities they have. This is my point of view. Essentially, people who accept what they are, are more down to earth than arrogant.]

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       Quantum-like thinking is not science. Thought cannot be measured except within its grammar and vocabulary. Human consciousness exists to convey thought. Animals also have a consciousness that cannot be fully measured by human beings. Reasoned thought is a spiritual substance. Without it, one cannot know what or who she or he is. In here, in this blog story, this is a greater philosophical truth as a soul such as myself sees and understands it. 

       You do not have to agree. You have not been a soul whole and empty, you humans are heart and mind. You name things. You have grammar and subjects and predicates. You name yourselves and other persons and places and things and states of being. 

       The closest thing a soul is to be named (in science-like fashion), is the working pronoun, "I". If youwant to imagine this twist-in-a-spirit, name yourself 'I' and see the spiritual world more like I see myself. 

       Imagine the consciousness of being a pronoun not a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, preposition, conjunction or interjection and you will have a better understanding of what it is to be a soul.  - mh

       * [No commentary needed. mh]

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       The bracket underlined commentary above is not needed, but it is acceptable. - Amorella

1516 hours. Ms Havisham, how would 'I' identify other human souls? 

One identifies another soul by a symbioticantouch-like sense. A soul is a soul alien human-like souls would also symbioticantouch-like, generally one or two at a time. A group or all souls may also symbioticantouch at once. mh

1550 hours. Are there many rules among souls?

No, at least none that living human beings can relate to. - mh

Dusk. Moving into the first section of "Consciousness" article. - Amorella

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Consciousness

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about cognition.

Consciousness is the state or quality of awareness or of being aware of an external object or something within oneself. It has been defined variously in terms of sentience, awareness, qualia, subjectivity, the ability to experience or to feel, wakefulness, having a sense of selfhood or soul, the fact that there is something "that it is like" to "have" or "be" it, and the executive control system of the mind. Despite the difficulty in definition, many philosophers believe that there is a broadly shared underlying intuition about what consciousness is.

As Max Velmans and Susan Schneider wrote in The Blackwell Companion to Consciousness: "Anything that we are aware of at a given moment forms part of our consciousness, making conscious experience at once the most familiar and most mysterious aspect of our lives." . . . You become aware that your actions have an effect on other people. 

       Conscious experience is being in a material and spiritual existence. The reality of being human is recognizing one is in two places at once -- the material world and the spiritual world. The material world is overwhelming and with being physical the human senses are a necessity for physical survival. The soul sense is to clarify the spiritual reality within. Dealing with both worlds is a moral imperative to generate self-worth and individual/ community purpose. The moral imperative is seen through respect for self and respect for others through mutual trust and friendship. This is what the soul understands. The key is friendship. Friendship allows souls to symbioticantouch. Friendship is a subset of the materialanspirital twist that being human is. One becomes aware of being two in one and being separate at the same moment. - mh

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       2248 hours. I find it strange that I have never focused on the concept that a material and spiritual existence of being human could so naturally fit within the realm of souls and friendships. Touch having a spiritual quality had not entered my mind before, at least I far as I can remember. Both Amorella and Ms Havisham write better than I do. Their words flow and sound better than my own. Good for them. 

       Post. - Amorella

       Perhaps we pretend to be the better angels of your nature, Mr. Orndorff. - mh

       2300 hours. I appreciate your kindness, Ms Havisham. I learn something new regularly. This is a very interesting exercise.